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October 1997


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Oct 31 - 21:56
Re: Re: Trivia Question
Doug C.
E-mail: nutshell@ufl.edu
Location: Florida

Damn...Berlioz didn't write it?!? It is the center theme from Dance of the Witches Sabbath. Well well well, you learn something new everyday. Who wrote it then?

Aliens Resurrection does look awesome. Hopefully it will be an improvement on the third one which sucked. (What was that crap at the end with Ripley jumping into the fire? Cameron and Scott probably were laughing their asses off.)

I like the Hunt for Red October soundtrack, but it is much too short.

Happy Halloween all!

Doug


Oct 31 - 17:00
Crimson Tide vs. The Hunt for Red October
Mike Skerritt
E-mail: mskerrit@umich.edu
Location: Michigan, USA

El Senor Bilby brought up a good point. I did wrongfully neglect to mention The Hunt for Red October. But, though the films bear resemblances, Crimson Tide and HFRO are very different scores.
Here's a little comparison of the two, IMHO:

Similarities first -- Who can deny the similarities of the two films? The scores are bound to bear some resemblances....
Both are tense and suspenseful at times (like the movies), and both blend orchestra, male choir, and synth. (Poledouris' I think is a little more seamless)

Differences, hehe -- While Zimmer's score can be as bombastic as it is quiet and suspenseful, Poledouris' score is more evenly subtle. The styles of the respective film have much to do with this. Though it has powerfully dramatic moments, Crimson Tide is by and large an action film. It calls for a massive theme, brining together its elements of patriotism and conflict. Zimmer certainly delivered. HFRO, while having its own great set pieces, is not such a relentless action film. Most of the film concerns dialogue and scenes of quiet naval strategy. As a film, it delved into the Russian side of the story, and the score reflects this. If Crimson Tide is anthemic, HFRO is no less hymnal.

Overall, these are two excellent score for two excellent movies, written by two excellent composers. CT and HFRO are in fact among the favorites in both my video and CD collections.

By the way, has anyone caught the TV trailer for Alien Resurrection yet? I saw it the other night. Must admit, I wasn't really paying attention to the music, but the film looks outstanding!!! Yippee!!!!! November's lookin good!!!!
Score by John Frizell is out November 11, and has been described as a mixture of Goldsmith's and Horner's scores for the first and second films. Actually, as much as I dislike Elliot Goldenthal, I thought Alien 3 was a solid score, and very different from the first two. Wouldn't Marco Beltrami have been a good pick to score this film? Oh well, I guess there's a reason I'm not Richard Kraft, lol.....

Zee y'all soon.......


Oct 31 - 11:30
Re: Trivia Question
Julius Horsthuis
E-mail: han.julius.romer@pi.net
Location: Amsterdam, Holland

The theme is from the Dies Irae, Berlioz used it in the symphonie Fantastique or something, but it's not written by Berlioz. It's much older.
So. Send me that broomstick. I hope it's a blue one, 'cause I love blue broomsticks.

By the way, does anyone know there are any Zimmer-MIDI-files on the net?


Oct 31 - 07:56
Poledouris
Brian Bilby
E-mail: bbilby@45acp.com
Location: Michigan

Hey you guys forgot Hunt for Red October. One of his better scores and the forerunner of Crimson Tide.

I've always liked Basils stuff. Conan the Barbarian has to be his best work to date. I'm looking forward to hearing his score in Paul "More Blood" Verhovens newest flick.

See Ya

Brian


Oct 31 - 07:44
Trivia Question
Doug Cherry
E-mail: nutshell@ufl.edu
Location: Florida

Nobody has answered my trivia question yet. I'll post it again.

Q: What theme by Berlioz does Zimmer put into almost every single one of his scores?

Hint: Think of Halloween.


Oct 30 - 18:40
Basil Poledouris: A Retrospective, lolol
Mike Skerritt
E-mail: mskerrit@umich.edu
Location: Michigan, USA

Basil Poledouris is a veteran film composer whose talents embody a wide range of styles. He has composed for full orchestras, weaving lush, coherent themes, has composed strictly electronic escapades, has composed an entire score solely for the piano (See It's My Party -- great intimate score), and has become quite adept at blending both, a la Jerry Goldsmith/Horner/Zimmer, etc....

Poledouris' work is wondefully thematic, starting simply and subtly building throughout the work to a majestic crescendo.

His breakthrough was scoring the grand adventure of John Milius, Conan the Barbarian. The film derived its power not from dialogue, but from the mixture of image and sound. It still stands as perhaps Poledouris' best work, along with its sequel, Conan the Destroyer. Both epics are available on Varese.

His works include RoboCop, Wind, On Deadly Ground, Cherry 2000, Flesh + Blood, Free Willy, etc............

The maestro receives my strongest recomendation and I look forward to the bombastic Starship Troopers (Unfortunately, Doug was right, and only about 35 minutes of music will be released from the 129 minute film. Basil's daughter Zoe will provide a song, so there actually will only be about 30-32 minutes :(

Picked up David Newman's Anastasia today. Will write a pocket review here later......

Bye all!!!!


Oct 30 - 16:27
Re: Poledouris
Doug Friend
E-mail: friend@tulsa.oklahoma.net
Location: Tulsa

Basil Poledouris is a great composer.
"I also am looking foward to "Starship Troopers"
which is to be released Nov. 4.
The sad thing is that Varese is putting it out and probably
will only hve about 35 mins of music.
Some of Poledouris' work is:

Conan the Barbarian
Conan the Destroyer
Cherry 2000
Flesh and Blood
On Deadly Ground
The Blue Lagoon
Quigly down Under
Robocop I and III
Lassie
Red Dawn
and the list goes on


Oct 30 - 13:34
Poledouris
J. Hamilton
E-mail: Leop2000@aol.com
Location: TX

Hey everyone, I am really looking forward to Starship Troopers and when I found out that Basil Poledouris was scoring I wasn't really familiar with his work. Can anybody tell me what movies he's done and if they are any good???


Oct 29 - 11:52
Re: Zimmer IMAX
Yumbo
E-mail: imc@top.net
Location: Cyclone weather

Zi,

Just wanted to add that I finally saw The Serengeti on DVD a few weeks back, and hearing POO was rather lovely.

It was on a Yamaha 3090, absolutely wild. But of course the movie was mastered that well.

Anyway, in terms of music, it uses only about 5 songs from POO, and some other original music sources. Therefore, POO isn't EXACTLY used as the score to Africa IMAX.

But true, POO will be the only one commercially available on Elektra.

Note - pressing quality ain't that flash, like in movie, but hey, pretty good as is. Just crank it up on a decent stereo, and you'll be grooving - my vote for Hans' best 'vocal' score, best arrangement, and THE definitive African score (and that's seconded by my African friends).

Well, bear in mind a lot of fine people collaborated on it as well.

cheers,
Chrisz


Oct 29 - 08:31
Zimmer IMAX
Mike Skerritt
E-mail: mskerrit@umich.edu
Location: Michigan, USA

Kirin,

You've probably seen this music in any record store, just under a different name. The music from Africa: The Serengeti is the same music he composed for The Power of One. Get the Power of One, and you'll have The Serengeti soundtrack. It should be easily available.

Hope this helps....


Oct 29 - 01:59
where to get it?
kirin kapin
E-mail: kkapin@cats.ucsc.edu
Location: uc santa cruz

The IMAX score I'm looking for is Africa: The Serengetti.

if anyone knows anythings, please e-mail me.


Oct 29 - 01:47
anybody know?
kirin kapin
E-mail: kkapin@cats.ucsc.edu
Location: uc santa cruz

I'm looking for the music Zimmer did for an IMAX film about Africa. Anyone? Anyone?


Oct 28 - 21:35
Black Rain and other news
Mike Skerritt
E-mail: mskerrit@umich.edu
Location: Michigan, USA

Hi y'all.....

Black Rain is actually a lot easier (and cheaper) to get than that. It's available over the internet through Footlight Records (www.footlight.com) It's available there for 19.99.
Also available there (something I mentioned earlier but couldn't verify until now) They have Wind that everyone has been e-mailing me about. It's 48.95 (little pricey) but WELL worth it...

Scoring news:

Jerry Goldsmith's full score to LA Confidential will be released on November 18th

James Horner's Titanic will be released the same day (Swayland mentioned on his site that there may be a second volume released, a la Braveheart)

Watch for Poledouris' Starship Troopers on November 4th. It's on Varese, meaning it only runs about 35 minutes (and that includes a song by Basil's daughter Zoe, but who knows? Could kick some booty)

Also, a little self-promotion. I live in a college town, which has SEVERAL used CD stores. I've found a number of rarities (Younger & Younger, for example, sir). If anyone needs help tracking down a rare or out-of-print score, e-mail. If I don't have it, I have a good friend in LA who runs his own specialty score business, so I can probably get it. (Look at me, the little ad exec, lolol)

Thanks for the time, hehe......


Oct 28 - 21:16
Re: All Zimmer
Doug C.
E-mail: nutshell@ufl.edu
Location: Florida

As an outside source who has dealt with Doug Friend, I just thought that I would add that his All Zimmer Cdr is one quality piece of work. I highly recommend it. I was amazed at how much work he put into the CDR and the cover.

I know it is hard to find someone reliable to deal with over the internet, but I just thought that I would vouch for this guy.
Check out his webpage because he has tons of great cds for sale or trade.

Doug C.

P.S. Trivia question: What theme by Berlioz does Zimmer seem to work into every one of his soundtracks? (The winner gets a broomstick for Halloween)


Oct 28 - 11:46
Re: all that zazz
Yumbo
E-mail: imc@top.net
Location: Fiji

Hi all,

Am I the only one feeling my absence.
Strange having a job and being a tad busy to keep up.

Guess that's why the MV staff who are even more busy find it hard to catch up with my Qs.

Anyway, some replies:

Black Rain - hard to find, unless you import (local TOWER store) from Europe, used store - expect to pay up to $50.

Younger and Younger - should be some out there, up to $15. Finally saw movie; there is one scene which is not on CD, but lots of dialogue, very nice cue. I enjoy this one more having now seen the movie.

Rhythm of the Pridelands - out of 11 tracks:

3 - Mark Mancina
4 - Hans
1 - Lebo M
3 - JVT

Trevor Rabin makes an appearance on one of Mark's songs. JVT overlaps as he did double duty on most, along with Jay Rifkin producing. For the pop buffs, Robbie Nevil helps out on last track, lol. Got a very interesting email from JVT - goodies in formatting time ala Fiji time, just busy.

Mark - as Mancinfo-ed, TLKBroadway CD is already being marketed - haven't checked whether it has been released, or just being ordered for dealers at this point.

Reminder - CHICAGO HOPE gets released (really!) next Tuesday November 4th. HIGH INCIDENT/HOMICIDE is to follow soon.

skadoodles!
Chrisz


Oct 28 - 09:10
"Black Rain" and "Younger and Younger"
j.heath
E-mail: djheath@worldnet.att.net
Location:

I am looking for black rain and younger and youmger sountrack.
is anyone able to provide these for me. also, how much of "rhythm of the pride lands" is actual hans-zimmer


Oct 27 - 23:41
Re: Bad Boys Score
Robin Kuipers
E-mail: io487099@student.io.tudelft.nl
Location: Freezing Holland

Mark Mancina is currently working on music for the stage version of the Lion King, The Lion King on Broadway. There's still talk about him and Trevor Rabin doing a song album together and going on tour. I don't have any solid info on that though. It's not clear when he's going to score another film, but expect him to be back sometime in 98 with a few scores.
For any other background info on Mancina go to:
The Unofficial Mark Mancina Site

Robin Kuipers


Oct 27 - 16:11
All Zimmer
Doug Friend
E-mail: friend@tulsa.oklahoma.net
Location: Tulsa, OK

I have finally gotten my CDR working.
The CD of "All Zimmer" is now ready.
Zimmer music from:

Cool Runnings
Rain Man
True Romance
Calendar Girl
Black Rain
League of their Own

with color cover and track listing.
I will trade for any CD on my want list.
http://www.tulsa.oklahoma.net/~friend

Thanks, Doug


Oct 27 - 09:52
Re: Bad Boys Score
Jon Aanensen
E-mail:
Location: Norway

Speaking of Mark Mancina; does anyone know what he's up to these days? It doesn't seem like he's scoring any new movies after having completed Con Air and Speed 2. He talked about doing live concerts; quite a project IMO. There was also rumours about an album he should do with Trevor Rabin this fall/winter.


Oct 27 - 04:25
Bad Boys Score
Robin Kuipers
E-mail: io487099@student.io.tudelft.nl
Location: Uni

Regarding the Bad Boys Score comments posted here (promo, no promo): shouldn't we petition for a release of this beautiful score. I mean, there's no re-use as far as I know, all synths, and thus the rights to the music shouldn't be that expensive. Can't we try to find some record company willing to invest a little and release this wonderful piece of art. Yeah, I know it's two years after the movie came out, but when we show how many people want a CD really, REALLY, bad, some one just might listen....

What do you say?

Oh, by the way, for latest Mark Mancina News, visit
The Unofficial Mark Mancina Site.

Robin Kuipers


Oct 27 - 03:14
Re: TO BE OR NOT TO BE -- What genre is this?

E-mail: 96it015@ba-mannheim.de
Location: Germany

I'm not sure if I understood your question exactly (my is not the best), but the track "To be or not to be" on "Renaissance Man" is a Rap-Track from Marky Mark, not the Mel Brooks Version. I hope it will help you.


Oct 27 - 01:19
TO BE OR NOT TO BE -- What genre is this?
Russell
E-mail: 96k23@students.miyakyo-u.ac.jp
Location: Japan

Hi all

I don't wish to sound ignorant but I am looking for a track with the following name:
"TO BE OR NOT TO BE"

I noticed that there is a track with this title on the soundtrack "Renaissance Man" but I am not sure if its the version I am looking for.

I have seen the record (I saw the record release) cover but didn't take much notice at the time ... but it did have "Mel Brooks" written on it (from the old movie?!?!)... Also, the track is dance genre....

Does this sound like the version from the movie or a totally different song?

Thanks for any help...

Russell


Oct 25 - 15:15
Something Different.....
Mike Skerritt
E-mail: mskerrit@umich.edu
Location: Michigan, USA

For starters....how bout them Wolverines!!!! Go Blue!!!!!
(sorry, couldn't help myself, lol...)

A little bit of non-scoring info I thought everyone might be interested in.....

Early in his career, James Newton Howard was, much like Michael Kamen and Danny Elfman, involved in the pop/rock music scene. He's worked with many acts, like Toto and Elton John.

For anyone who'd like to know, in 1987, Elton John had a major concert in Australia (where the best version of Candle in the Wind was recorded). He was backed beautifully by the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra, arranged and conducted by James Newton Howard. Throughout the 70+ minute CD, the orchestra serves as a elegant backdrop to John's piano stylings. But one song, called Tonight, is specially arranged by JNH, and it's absolutely wondrous. It runs about 7 and a half minutes, and is breathtaking. This CD is readily available, and I recommend to anyone who likes artists that have one foot in film and one in other genres. It's called Elton John: Live in Australia....

Happy hunting.


Oct 25 - 10:46
Once and for Naught......
Mike Skerritt
E-mail: mskerrit@umich.edu
Location: Michigan


Alright, there's been such a hub bub about this score as of late, Rich is right....it's time to put this baby to bed. There is NOT a promo score for Mancina's Bad Boys. No promo, not even a bootleg unless you count the extended track on Follow Your Dreams. That's the story, folks. Sad but true......

By the way, X-mas is coming, so would some one send me the promo for Murder at 1600 that does not exist for free? lolol

I'll do what I can to get info on Poeldouris' Switchback. I'll post when I get an answer.

Zee y'all later.....


Oct 25 - 08:24
Once and for All
rich roth
E-mail: rothstein@earthlink.net
Location: phila, pa

Okay, let's finally settle the score... has there even ever been a promo release of Bad Boys (score only). I don't believe a copy exists anywhere. I've heard that Mancina gave a couple of copies away to his friends (that was just a rumor I heard).

So, I think we should all collectively search for anyone with a so-called copy of this... X-mas is coming up and I would really like to get a copy of this. (P.S. If I find one too I'd be more than willing to share with you guys.)

richie


Oct 23 - 19:29
Re: Breaking Wind
T. Lin
E-mail: Turbohyper@aol.com
Location: NJ

Speaking of switchback, does anyone know where the music in the tv commercials came from? It is also used in the commercials for the devil's advicote. Please drop me an e mail if you know anything about it. thanks


Oct 22 - 10:27
Pray For Rain
Jon Aanensen
E-mail:
Location: Norway

I just wondered if anyone knows anything about this enigmatic film score group. According to the internet movie data base Pray For Rain has scored a lot of features and TV-movies during the last ten years. I have seen the movies "Love, Cheat And Steal" and "White Mile" plus having heard the "Roadside Prophets" soundtrack, and I find their style quite interesting. It's a mixture of electronic and acoustic instruments, and I tend to get the "band" feeling when I hear their music. They seem to be completely "faceless"; it's not easy to even find out who the individuals behind the band are. There is a christian pop group with the same name - I DON'T think they are the same... If anyone knows something, then post it here.


Oct 21 - 19:56
Breaking Wind
Mike Skerritt
E-mail: mskerrit@umich.edu
Location: USA

Cavalier~

Wind is fairly easy to get, if you know where you're looking. I know where you can find a copy for around $40. It's where I got mine. E-mail me for details....

By the way, it's an excellent score. On the Poledouris tip, does anyone know if any label is planning on releasing his score to the new Dennis Quaid thriller Switchback? Varese Sarabande maybe? I saw the rancid collection of songs on its soundtrack today, and was sorely disappointed.....

Cheers and toodles to y'all, off to bed.....zzzzzzzzzz


Oct 21 - 17:35
Cavalier
E-mail: sliver@etcrier.net
Location: USA

Hello people,

Does anyone know anything about the soundtrack to the movie "Wind?" I had seen the film back in the early 90's. It starred Matthew Modine and Jennifer Grey. The soundtrack is by Basil Poledouris I believe. I have heard it is a Japanese import or something like that. If you know, where can it be purchased? Much thanks!!

Cavalier


Oct 15 - 15:38
nuthin
J. Hamilton
E-mail: Leop2000@aol.com
Location: TX

Hey everybody, I've checked out the Peacemaker on CD and in the movie theatre and I really must say that you need to see the movie or listen to the CD many times until you fully appreciate it. That's just my opinion though.
Anyway, I went and bought a computer game called "The Dig". It was made by LucasArts and put together by Spielberg. Has anyone heard of it? Anyway, I put it in and I was SHOCKED at how beautiful the music was. No, this is not ordinary computer game mu sic. It is very ominous and brooding and overall beautiful. Although the fast music does seem somewhat cheesy, the slow parts, and there are alot of them are really good. I was then shocked again to find out that a soundtrack to this game was released on Angel Records or something like that. I think I'm gonna go check it out, I think you should to if you are interested, even though you probably think I'm crazy!


Oct 12 - 15:00
Same old, same old
Alicia Miller
E-mail:
Location: Rialto

Hey, for those who don't believe of what I said and seriosly can't find the Guitars CD look at the bottom of the main page. I mean to this worship page. Somewhere down there it says ILIO Entertainments go in there and it has the CD. Aren't we all happy we found it? It says theres an audio CD and it lists tracks. I tried to post this mess. earlier but my modem lost connection and exited on me. By the way, you guys didn't answer my question. How many of you will look at my Lebo M. page if I created one? I m ean after all Lebo is one of Hans pals. (Hans told me.) Also, I have a Hans Zimmer interveiw on The Lion King. I'll e-mail it to Brian ASAP for you all. Only a die-hard LK fan would have this interveiw from a kids magazine. I have tons of info on Hans and will be writting a bio on him for all to see in my Lebo page. One minor note: Which progeam is the best to create web pages. I mean an easy to use one. So as Lebo would say for now, lala kahle.

Alicia Miller


Oct 11 - 21:29
The Peacemaker
Peter Lasorte
E-mail: coutinho@ix.netcom.com
Location: New York

I was wondering if anyone had any idea what the name of the classical music son that the villan plays on the piano (also, the composers name). I thought it was quite beautiful and would like to find out more about it. If you do know, email me at the

coutinho@ix.netcom.com

Thanks

Peter


Oct 10 - 16:49
Deep Impact
Mike Skerritt
E-mail: mskerrit@umich.edu
Location: USA

Chris: wasn't sure if your note pertained to me, but I didn't get the news from Corona or Harry. I got it from a reliable source within the business. James Horner will score Deep Impact instead of Hans Zimmer. Hopefully, he will take on Armageddon, it 's got great potential for a classic Zimmer score.

BTW, drop me a line if you get a chance, I never have any idea where you are! lol

Later everyone!


Oct 9 - 02:34
Hans Zimmer Guitars
Andrew Carr
E-mail: acarr@rubix.com.au
Location: Melbourne Australia

My understanding, from what I read in a music mag, is that HZG (of which there are two volumes) is not a conventional music CD - it contains samples of guitars "from the personal library of Academy Award winning composer Hans Zimmer." Correct me if I'm wr ong, but you sample them into your synthesiser and hey! Presto! Another 100 sounds to play around with :)


Now, if we can only get him to release his samples of the LSO...lol


Cheers,




Andrew


Oct 8 - 23:28
Newz umz
Yumbo
E-mail: imc@top.net
Location: Busy land

hmmmm,

Note - news from Corona and Harry may not be totally reliable.

Speculation - Hans has gone with Michael Bay and Jerry B for Armageddon INSTEAD.

Experience with PM was not too encouraging, ie. tame movie.

whatever.....

- POE poster is out, which is temped with CT, lol.
- He's working on As Good AS It Gets (Old Friends), which won't be score-ready when it premieres at Show East Oct 23rd.

Harry GW has a new action movie, and so does Jeff Rona, while John Powell works on a small movie.

I'm busy (and this isn't my PC), and hopefully will catch up with email etc when I get my MAC!

Ps. Hans played guitar on The Profiler, when Jeff couldn't find anyone else.

good night!
Chris


Oct 8 - 21:00
Re: Scoring newz and other ztuff......
Doug C.
E-mail: nutshell@ufl.edu
Location: Florida

Wow....a new Braveheart cd?!? cool, except I can't imagine what else could be on the 70 minutes than what Mike mentioned. The original cd seemed to include everything.

A message back to ya Mike: No... I am not offended at all about the Goldsmith thing. My opinion was a little strong...hehe. I realize he has been around for ever and has gotten many awards, but so has John Barry and I can't stand his music either. I have heard Goldsmith's old stuff like China Town and I don't like it at all. He has not made one soundtrack I have enjoyed, except I do like the Klingon theme in Star Trek. The Edge sounded just like something else...a couple notes off another theme...but I co uldn't put my finger on it. I wasn't impressed, I guess I just don't have the taste for his music. I never have given much credit to critic's opinions or Oscars lately. There are too many politics involved.

The themes in the Peacemaker and Seven Years in Tibet are not too apparent upon the first couple listens, but listen to it more and they will come out to ya. Peacemaker has a main theme which is more apparent in the film. Zimmer seemed to be trying to not be repititious on the cd. At first, I couldn't tell themes apart as well, but thats different now since I listen to it all the time.
I personally don't like cds that play the same theme over and over.

Concerning 7 Years in Tibet, it seemed incredibly close to Schindler's list in style. Just like the latter, there are 2 predominant themes in the score. Both scores take romantic themes and put little ethnic numbers inbetween.

You killed me with the Deep Impact news. Where did you here this? The info that Zimmer was doing it has been posted everywhere.

Doug

P.S. Does anyone have a track listing or description of the Zimmer Guitars cd?


Oct 8 - 17:52
Scoring newz and other ztuff......
Mike Skerritt
E-mail: mskerrit@umich.edu
Location: Michigan, USA

Okay, Zimmerites, it's been a while, so let me get some things off my chest:

First, I was surfing the web not too long ago and came upon a sight that was praising Stuart Baird's choice for James Newton Howard to score US Marshals, the sequel to The Fugitive (as you can tell, this message is for those coming from Yumbo's sight, lol ) Anyhoo, this information is NOT correct. JNH is not scoring US Marshals. The task will go to Jerry Goldsmith, who scored Baird's last outing, Executive Decision. Not quite the best score of 1996 (OK, so it sucked), but I always expect good things fr om the maestro, and this time is no different.

Next, I've heard from several sources that Hans Zimmer would be scoring Mimi Leder's second directorial effort, Deep Impact. This is also not correct, as many of the readers of this page will be saddened to know. The job is going to James Horner. From what I can remember, this is Horner's first foray into the disaster genre (well, depending on how you look at Titanic), and I'm sure Horner fans will be treated to something interesting.

And now I turn my thoughts toward The Peacemaker. Consider this a review of sorts.

I have to admit, even with all of the positive feedback coming from this score, I was vastly disappointed. I liked the use of the chorus, but it wasn't anything revolutionary as Zimmer scores go. He used the same device in both The Rock and Crimson Tide . And what those scores had The Peacemaker seriously lacks: a main theme. I suppose that somewhere in that muddled mass of synhtesized/orchestral fusion riffs was a minor theme, but it was in no way built upon. I felt no flow in the score. Certainly, with all the time Zimmer had to work on this, he could have come up with something better.

To Doug: I realize this is a subjective opinion, but Zimmer does not "kick Goldsmith's butt." Goldsmith has been in the world of scoring for over 40 years. He has 14 Academy Award nominations, 1 Academy Award, several Emmy nominations and wins, and nume rous other accolades I don't have enough room to mention. He also pioneered the use of synthesizers to score films (Yes, Zimmer has taken this to another level, but let's give credit where credit is due) He is a living legend, and continues to outshine y ounger composers when everyone wonders just what he'll think of next.
Now, perhaps given time, Zimmer may one day reach these plateaus, but there will never be another Jerry Goldsmith.

Sorry if I may have offended, but I've said my peace.....

New release to make sure to geT:

The Edge - Goldsmith - This score surprised me with its complexity. I wasn't sure what to expect when Goldsmith meets nature, but the results are a powerful, flowing new score.

More Music from Braveheart - James Horner - Just released. Contains almost another 70 minutes of music, including dialogue and music previously unreleased. Includes for example the music played during the funeral of Wallace's father. Also contains anot her cue called "For the Love of a Princess," which is hopefully the version actually used in the film (I'm not sure, I haven't actually listened to it.) Still looks great

Seven Years in Tibet - John Williams - Even with the talent of Yo Yo Ma, this is no Schindler's List. His many Schindler like moments, but there's not quite as much substance there. Rather than two major themes, there is only one. It is fully orchestra l, and certainly dramatic, but just doesn't have the lasting power. Still, a powerful score nearing 70 minutes. I definite recommendation.

That's it for now, folks. Let's hear what you think!


Oct 5 - 22:08
Where to look
Alicia
E-mail: LKQUEEN@aol.com
Location: Rialto

I got this long ass track listing of Zimmer Guitars. You must e-mail me to post it for you 'cause I'm the slowest typer in the west. Also ask Hans for the Best of and look in his Ask Hans column for more info. I already gave you his email address so there 's no excuse. Oh yeah on Yahoo they have hie own subject thing.

Alicia Miller

PS: If I created a Lebo M. page how many of you would seriously visit?


Oct 5 - 21:50
Guitars
Alicia Miller
E-mail: LKQUEEN@aol.com
Location: You know

Ok I just e-mailed someone on this subj. Go to a search engine (preferably starting point ref.) and type Hans Zimmer Guitars. It's a CD-ROM ver. 2.0 and I think it costs $299 and the CD-Audio costs $99 but anyway his e-mail address at his studio is zimmer @mediaventures.com. I'll be back with more soon (I hope).

Alicia Miller
Certified Hans Zimmer & Lebo M. addict.

PS: Thanks Marco Samtlebe for correcting me. It was, however, written by Zimmer himself that Paperhouse was on there.


Oct 5 - 21:41
Guitars
Alicia Miller
E-mail: LKQUEEN@aol.com
Location: You know

Ok I just e-mailed someone on this subj. Go to a search engine (preferably starting point ref.) and type Hans Zimmer Guitars. It's a CD-ROM and I think it costs oh I don't know I'll look again but anyway his e-mail address at his studio is zimmer@mediaven tures.com. I'll be back.

Alicia Miller
Certified Hans Zimmer & Lebo M. addict.


Oct 5 - 12:45
Lurking about
Yumbo
E-mail: imc@top.net
Location: Suva, Fiji (tropical place)

Hi folkies,

Just letting you know I'm about....waiting for my Mac to get shipped down before getting back to routine.

Job interviews today etc. and trying to get past having to pay $7 an hour online.

Yes, I did see Hans on the 26th for half an hour, quite interesting. Spent about 3 hours with Jeff Rona, met Harry GW and Gavin Greenaway as well.

Zinfo should be re-activated in about 2-3 weeks...Fiji time, lol.
Unai, I have his autograph for yoo!

Yup,
Chris


Oct 5 - 05:51
Re: Important info.
Marco Samtlebe
E-mail: samtlebe@aol.com
Location: Germany

Little Correction :

New Music In Films has Burning Secret, Fruit Mashine and Diamond Skulls, not Paperhouse !!!

But what is this "Hans Zimmer: Best of" and "Hans Zimmer Guitar" you talked about ? I never heard about this CD¥s !
Can you please post a Track-Listing ?

Thanks :o)

There are several CD's that are out you people might be interested in.
Hans Zimmer: New music in Films - it has Burning Secret, Paperhouse, and Fruit Machine


Oct 4 - 21:14
Important info.
Alicia Miller
E-mail: LKQUEEN@aol.com
Location: Between Fontana & San Berdo, Thats Rialto

OK people heres the news:
Hans Zimmers fav. artists are Sting, Vangelis, NIN (Nine Inch Nails) among others. He has been mainly focused on listening to Prokiev, Shostakovich and taking in Yes' new live album.

To oder some of his CD's try
Varese Sarabande Music
11846 Ventura Blvd. Suite 130
Studio City, CA 910604
(818) 753 - 4143

There are several CD's that are out you people might be interested in.
Hans Zimmer: New music in Films - it has Burning Secret, Paperhouse, and Fruit Machine
Then theres Hans Zimmer: Best of
And Hans Zimmer Guitar (This one you can oder online use the title for keyword)
And last but certainly not least: Narada World: A Global Vision which includes works from Zimmer, Michael Whelan, Vas, Nando Lauria, Mary McLaughlin and more.

For all those looking for Days Of Thunder, last time I checked San Bernardino Best But had 2 cassette tapes left. I tink they also had Cool Runnings on cassette also.

If you'd like to know where I got this info E-mail me.

Alicia Miller (Certified Lion King Music and animation addict)


Oct 4 - 07:15
The Peacemaker
Maksim Nuorala
E-mail: novacek_mak@hotmail.com
Location: Sweden

I'm not going to review this CD, I just wanted the share this with the world; damn he's good!!
It sounds a heck of a lot like The Rock and Crimson Tide. I wonder if Deep Impact will have the same kind of music...
And by the way, I am definately an Eric Serra fan.


Oct 1 - 19:26
The Peacemaker
Peter Lasorte
E-mail: coutinho@ix.netcom.com
Location: New York

I was wondering if anyone had any idea what the name of the classical music son that the villan plays on the piano (also, the composers name). I thought it was quite beautiful and would like to find out more about it. If you do know, email me at the

coutinho@ix.netcom.com

Thanks

Peter